Beiträge von Gramigno

I found this today on the international topic.

Please have a look.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topi…_st__325__gopid__20698748

Print is in the middle of the opened page.

Thanks.

Gram.

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Original von jimmy a
Hi Gramigno,

i will send your question to Thorsten Wimmer. unfortunately he has not much time, But he has assured me to answer all questions

Thank you so much!
i really appreciate your help, mate!

HI,
may you still help me to understand jimmy's print?

i'll try to explain what i found weird:
in some power output lines we can see a vertical groving of the measured value;
i know a dyno works adding wheel output power to lost power and i think that vertical groving may be originated by a pulled hand brake during rolling phase to measure lost power.

What do you think about it?

Is someone expert in dynos enought to help me to find out?

and if "yes" do you ever have seen the power growing vertically without a revolution increase?
and where is the "lost power line"?

Sorry about my doubts,
but if you know about dynoing you will discover this prints are at least weird.

I think i found something but before talking i wish to have an help in translations:

Google tranlates as "performace" and "gearbox adding performance"
i THINK they means "Wheel output" and "Engine output",
but it can means "torque" and "power" too,
s i need someone will translate it for me.

IF the "201" are intended as "torque" means something,
if they are intended as "wheel power" or "pure power" it means something else.

Please let me know,
it should become very intresting.

Cheers.

Gram.

found them, sorry!!

is it a 4 gear?

i have seen a "Puffo" mark and a "K&N" mark too.

what are the other measures?

I forgot:
the test setting you written was propely done,
i have nothing to complain about it,
there are pretty much my same conditions.

Thanks again.

Hi,
have you found donators enought to allow me to know what happened during the test?

Many people have done the same tests across Europe and you have been the only one who find a better improvement/cost ratio;
but untill now i still don't know what happened,
how much power and torque does your car have in both setting,
and how much is dissipated.

i wish to have some more informations,
just to understand what was different (I said different, not wrong) in the test you have done.

Thanks for helping me.

Gram.

I wish to thank you for testing it and i apologize if it disappointed you.

i knew onee day a different test after over 20 done all arround the world it could have a different resul,
even if i can't really understand what may have a different result just doing the same test.

just for the records:
if you tested it with open bonnet is normal you have not found the result,
if you did it in my same conditions wich are closed bonnet and direct air fan at at least 80km/h air.
(i done it with 130 air fan.)

TRhanks again for tryed it.

Gram.

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Original von jimmy a
Hi, as promised, I let the comparison made by Wimmer make racing technology.

The whole story has me € 278 (250 € = let 2x performance measurement with KN, cooling and 2x performance measurement with the Puffo including installation + 28 € Free shipping OEM filter and hose) cost, so I would be very grateful if some of you participate in the cost would be. So I'll sit alone on the cost, in order to finally clarify whether the Puffo bring something or not. (I myself have no Puffo)

Just write what you "donate" will, I will send you my bank details via PM

Special thanks to Maddy, who made his Puffo available, and also to the Thorsten Wimmer, because the course does not really have incurred costs that were charged to me.

What can I say, the very positive reports that are circulated until now, have unfortunately NOT confirmed.
The Puffo loses on the KN gene. 2 kit, the chart is attached as a PDF.

Nicht wundern der Text ist mit dem Google Übersetzer von Deutsch auf Englisch übersetzt

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Original von Gramigno

I forgot maybe to say how i did this results,
it have to be dynoed with closed bonnet and hight speed air,
if it's done with open bonnet i don't know how much, but it have to rise because with open bonnet you will have more air then in the real world.

any news?

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Original von Maddy
My Puffo is on its way to Jimmy...

I forgot maybe to say how i did this results,
it have to be dynoed with closed bonnet and hight speed air,
if it's done with open bonnet i don't know how much, but it have to rise because with open bonnet you will have more air then in the real world.

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Original von Maddy
Hi,
da mein Puffo noch jungfräulich bei mir zu hause liegt, würde ich ihn Dir und somit der allgemeinen Neugiers-Befriedigung für die Tests zur Verfügung stellen können.
PM mich einfach mal.

Gruß
Maddy

Thank you Madde,
i still find easyer to read in english,
but i appreciate your friendship.

Happy to read you Pat!

i think your way to compare should work as well;
many people tested using different ways,
from the ECU exit plugged with a PC,
to the GPS tracking,
someothers stopwatched and after calculate the missing time as improvement,
(i still prefere the dynos, but it's just me)

they ALL had same results:
it's not that much,
but at least 5% power encreasement have to come,
just because like everyone knows,
maths is not an opinion.

A guy from here has a test in this days and contacted me to help me to find out,
but after the results they had testing,
in this moment french are buyng all my production within 2 months,
so i was unable to provide a Puffo for testing.

I hope Pat will find out,
because his doubt are exactley tghe same i used to have when we started developping it.

I suggest a test for the guys who have not electronic way to prove it.
take a piece of unlimited speed motorway,
strting from zero reach the top spedd ad stopwatch it,
do the same test several times in teh same conditions and after uninstall the Puffo and try same test with stock intake fitted.

Let us know what do you discover.

Gram.

Just for the records,
because noone is updating:

The French forum dynoed today:

+10 ps.

Here you are the links,
but you have to register.

http://s2000-passion.forumacti…ance-powerdyn-dans-le-6-9

Still waiting for "German experience".

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Original von GRunner
ah ok then I should get a new one, as I said before the previous owner had the top removed from the airbox, so I think it´s a bit dirty

Definitely you need a new filter.

The Puffo comes within 5 working days from the day i read the transaction.
it comes with instructions and it takes a few minutes to be installed.
it has NOT oem filter included.

P.M. me if you wish to have one,
for more infos please write here in pubblic area.

Gram.

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Original von GRunner
mhm..but i prefer "noisy" intakes hehe as I surely miss the turbo sound.

Is there a chance to get a "puffo" in loud-edition with the same benefits ?

We did 3 special carbon fiber edition, wich are louder in sounds and lighter.

Unfortunaltely i paid them 500 euro each,
are you still interested?

Happy to read it!

Expecially when Freestyler said it's not too much noisy.

I hope someone who deserves trust will dynoscan the car with and without Puffo soon.

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Original von patrick_S
felt power is too subjective
if someone does "believe" in Puffo he will feel more power, if he doesn't believe he will fell nothing

i will test and evaluate it in a matter-of-fact, as far as my possibilities allow this

regardless of the results i can say that the construction of the puffo is very well and it looks nice
it's good work for a fair price

Thanks mate!

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Original von S2H
Thanks to all for sharing your impressions! Im surprised that Freestyler don't feel a difference in power output from the engine with the Puffo. In my oppinion, if you gain 13HP normally you have to feel it, right? That shows me, that the Puffo probably doesn't make that difference on the engine. I'm waiting for dyno sheets from our club members comparasing OEM Intake to Puffo Intake. But Thanks so far for all of you sharing your impressions with us.

Actually we are talking about a 5%-peack increasement,
not effective as a well programmed ECU can do,
i already experimeted not every one is sensitive enought to feel it without a stopwach or a gps,

If Freestyler will remove the Puffo for a test,
i' sure he will feel the car slower.

Shall we try?

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Original von patrick_S
last weekend i worked all the time in my garage
i had not a minute to test or compare anything
the following two weekends are similar, 1st birthday of my daughter, then my parents are visiting

i'm sorry if i can't tell you impressions or results but at the moment i'm too busy
further i didn't drive my S for nearly 6 months, now i'll have to "acclimatize* to it with my normal setup
then i'll install puffo and make the comparison

maybe some other users can share their experiences meanwhile?

Pat

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Good point,
i'll wait you Pat.

Gram.

Any news?

i think if you already installed you start to have your own opinion, Patrick,
may you share it with us, good or bad as well as you feel it?